Trust Is Overrated

by Frost on February 16, 2012

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Epicurus February 24, 2012 at 8:15 am
xsplat February 20, 2012 at 6:46 am

Top grade post and comments.

DON’T trust, and verify.

Epicurus February 17, 2012 at 1:50 am

“The sword of Trust can be used to shame the beta men who wish to protect their wives.”

Exactly. Another example of how the “empowerment” feminist seek is the freedom to shop around on girls’ night for upgrades from their current boyfriend/husband, without any whining or protest from the soon-to-be-cuckolded. How pathetic it is that modern men willingly accept the rules of this rigged game.

Also, interesting to note how women are the ones laughing the hardest at Chris Rock’s spot-on observations. They know better than the men how true it all is.

James February 16, 2012 at 8:25 pm

Cui Bono? Not only alpha males and promiscuous women, but also the capitalist economy and the government. Because “trust” allows women to become paid workers and taxpayers. Their marriages, their husbands’ opinions, and the husbands themselves, are expendable, as long as the economy keeps running and the tax dollars keep coming in.

Frost February 16, 2012 at 8:50 pm

There’s definitely money to be made in the divorce industry. But there’s also money to be made in stable, productive, virtuous families. Much more so in the latter actually, especially if you look at it in the long term.

If one looks at the western world as a well-organized conspiracy by a few powerful people to fleece the masses – wouldn’t it make more sense to encourage productive habits, fatten the cattle so to speak?

If one looks at the WW as a disorganized, decaying empire, with no real central authority or guiding principles, populated by powerful people trying to make off with as much cash as they can before the house burns down… I think that picture makes more sense.

James February 17, 2012 at 8:45 am

Yes, I agree that this is the situation we find ourselves in now.

I was trying to think back 50 years, when lack of “trust” would have been one reason preventing women from joining the paid workforce in greater numbers. To the rich and powerful, the idea of doubling the paid workforce would have been irresistible. However, the rich and powerful did not have superhuman intelligence, and they did not foresee that they would eventually kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.

I made a longer post on a similar theme on your article “Men’s Rights Activists: You Will Never Win The Battle You’re Fighting”, and I’d be interested to hear your opinions on that. (Wordpress wouldn’t let me post the references, which were links to Dalrock and The Last Psychiatrist).

Rob February 16, 2012 at 10:02 am

“So now we see the idea of Trust, stripped of its pretensions and laid bare in front of us: Just one more piece of social conditioning to ease the transition from the outdated western ideal of monogamy, to our natural, tribal state of polygamy and soft harems.”

Here is the problem. In the tribal state you refer to, everyone knew everyone else. They knew their parents and grand parents. They knew practically everything about everyone. Even though people were sleeping with a lot of other people (a practice usually encouraged by the tribe), there were real, intimate relationships based on proximity, dependency, ritual, and straight up survival.

These days, hardly anyone knows anyone especially well. How many people have old friends? How many people regularly spend time with family and extended family. It’s a problem because the tendency is as you stated. By the effect of indulging the tendency is often alienation—because, after all, the person we just spent the night with is basically a stranger.

Frost February 16, 2012 at 8:35 pm

Good point. And now that you bring it up, I believe I mentioned it in my “Don’t get married” series that a system of total accountability (i.e. GPS, lie detectors) would actually be closer to the natural, tribal state because small groups and gossip would make for very few secrets. The current state, i.e. anonymous, atomized people in giant cities, is hardly natural!

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