Hot, Young Women: Ignore Everybody (Except Me)

by Frost on July 28, 2011

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LE March 30, 2012 at 10:42 pm

This doesn’t account for the fact that some hot women like having lots of sex. So they are “winning” too. Also, beta men might be having more sex on average than before as a result of the sexual revolution (sex is in general easier to come by), even though alpha men’s gains have been relatively larger.

In other words, maybe everyone is winning.

Jennifer September 13, 2011 at 11:12 pm

No, it isn’t false; you’re putting a man’s preference on the same plane as what makes someone worthy as a mate, and confidence IS a mark of worthiness because it goes beyond looks. Keeping up your appearance and being a super-model are two separate things; if a guy doesn’t like the former, it’s an indication of valid judgement on some level. But if he rejects a woman based on the fact that she’s not the latter, he’s fatious and shallow, not appreciating true value of what makes a mate; it’s as simple as that. So is the fact that people’s definitions of beauty differ, so the rank to me is fairly useless in general anyway. Unless women at the lowest ranks are women who actually do a BAD JOB of self-maintenance, I’d say it’s useless.

Frost September 16, 2011 at 11:28 am

Is it wrong for men to care about a woman’s looks?

I like a woman who takes care of her appearance because it also shows confidence and pride, in addition to making her look good. But mostly I just like girls who look good in and of itself. Big bouncy titties are more important than clean finger nails.

Andrew August 24, 2011 at 2:04 am

Extremely well thought out and written. I’m passing this one on.

Jennifer, a woman’s looks are an enormous part of her value as a mate. This is not a matter of opinion, it is a fact about what men like. Your statement is the equivalent of saying “a man’s confidence is not representative of his value as a man.” Despite what every shy and self-doubting guy out there would like to believe, the statement is false. And so is yours.

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Andrew August 24, 2011 at 2:04 am

Extremely well thought out and written. I’m passing this one on.

Jennifer, a woman’s looks are an enormous part of her value as a mate. This is not a matter of opinion, it is a fact about what men like. Your statement is the equivalent of saying “a man’s confidence is not representative of his value as a man.” Despite what every shy and self-doubting guy out there would like to believe, the statement is false. And so is yours.

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Jennifer August 8, 2011 at 10:41 pm

This works greatly with the problems of feminism, but I despise the focus that everyone has on looks. Women should be discouraging the sexual revelution because they’re not deserving of being treated like crap, not because we’re all brokenhearted that the “pretty” girls are getting hurt. Pretty isn’t everything, by a long shot, and the obsession of looks led to many so-called “tens” taking men from women “lower down” on the asinine looks rank. Bottom line: a woman’s looks, and a man’s, are not representative of their true value as mates.

Doug1 August 2, 2011 at 11:14 pm

Great juxtaposition.

tenthring July 29, 2011 at 11:46 am

I’m going to comment on the above post in clear disregard for your closing comments.

“Instead, we need to look at policy questions from this perspective: if we had absolute power to enact whatever reforms we desired, what would we do? ”

Why? I’m not talking about what we can do next election, but generally what can we do in a democracy. You know they used to have this thing called political economy in college, where you studied how governing systems worked, not from an individual election standpoint but long term. So for instance you learn how having something like Medicare reduces political support for universal health care because current Medicare recipients view expansion of that benefit as a threat to their own benefits. Things like that last election after election. Coming up with policy ideas that can’t survive many election cycles and trends because they don’t have a solid political economy background aren’t very useful.

Frost July 29, 2011 at 12:02 pm

You’re taking it as a given that we must live under democracy.

There’s a comment thread at IMF, paste this over there if you want to continue the discussion.

Frost July 29, 2011 at 11:03 am

Different woman!

One is Lorraine Berry of Dalrock fame. The other is my favourite front page result for a google images search of “babe.”

That’s not an angle I touched in the series, but it’s an interesting one. Back when women learned about sex and relationships from their relatives, mama and grandma had a vested interest in passing on good advice. They wanted to see their little girl happy.

Nowadays, girls learn about sex from Cosmo, pop culture, and feminist academia. I’ve also noticed a pernicious meme among parents: “You can’t influence your child’s decisions! If you try to nag them, they’ll just react in the opposite way!” So it’s a two-pronged attack: 1) Destroy families and convince parents not to “lecture” their children, and 2) replace the wisdom they once passed down with Helen Gurley Brown.

William August 1, 2011 at 1:53 am

The meme could be successful if children faces the consequence of their actions.
Instead parent decide that they won’t discipline their children or be an authority figure, but WILL be there to bail their children out of any trouble they get into.

I’ve seen it play out with my oldest nephew.
As a child he was bad and was known for stealing, his mother would intervene whenever the grandmother tried to discipline him.

He is now on probation for robbery.

Puck July 29, 2011 at 3:53 am

thenthring,

That’s really the point of these posts, isn’t it? Young women (and older single women) need to reevaluate the basis of their decisions because their current system of thinking is not particularly effective at achieving their desired outcomes.

It was the feminists (to be fair, in combination with modern tech) that reduced both the parents and grandparents influence on young women and allowed them the freedom to sleep around with a relatively select few alpha males. It seems to me that what Frost is advocating is simply a return to the fundamental knowledge that our grandparents had about mate selection and the nature of relationships.

Writers such as Susan Walsh (who is absolutely wonderful) are merely trying to reinstill this age old advice through modern systems of communication in an effort to improve the overall life satisfaction of young women.

And dear god, please tell me that’s not the same woman in those two pictures….

tenthring July 28, 2011 at 6:05 pm

Perhaps there is a simpler explanation:
Young women don’t know what they are doing and can’t control their sexual urges. While women are more discerning about who they sleep with, once they are into a guy I find they are incredibly horny for him. Can’t we just chalk young girls decisions up to youthful ignorance and hormones.

In the past young women didn’t make their own choices. Parents did. They protected young women from themselves. Its entirely possible young women of past generations would have made the same bad choices en masse if they had the choice, certainly there are many stories in that regard throughout history.

louie July 30, 2011 at 4:25 pm

we can chalk it up to that but it won’t change the results. that is the reason but what will excusing it do? as for your second point, yes, it is true. but that doesn’t mean they were wrong to do it. is wrecking society a right?

filrabat August 4, 2011 at 8:45 pm

“Can’t we just chalk young girls decisions up to youthful ignorance and hormones.”

We can, sure. But if so, then why can’t we chalk up 20-year old men being a father 3 to 4 times over up to youthful ignorance and hormones too? Or for that matter, making any other stupid decision for that matter? This is LEGALLY the age of an adult, after all; and has been this way for thousands of years (not because of mere tradition, but because cultures around the world have determined this age – and usually a few years younger besides – to be one where a normal person should be self-disciplined enough to be held accountable for their actions)

Humans will do whatever they can get away with. If they see a really bad person getting away with “that” then that tempts the better people to do that same bad thing.

Besides, this assumes 20 year olds are no more capable of checking their impulses than wild animals are, and therefore find the remark frankly insulting – especially to the 20 yr olds (female or male) who DO exercise such self-control.

filrabat August 4, 2011 at 8:46 pm

Sorry Louie, that’s meant for Tenthring

Jack Dublin July 28, 2011 at 4:31 pm

In a surprise to no one with a grasp of history and human nature, culture and civilization arose in the ways they did for a reason. And nature does not abide infractions of reality. ‘Reaping the whirlwind’ comes to mind.

js July 28, 2011 at 4:25 pm
Rusty Shackleford July 28, 2011 at 3:32 pm

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