The Sexual Dystopia Sucks For Women Too

by Frost on January 19, 2011

Men these days are a sorry lot. Women too. Basically, we’re all just fucked.

A lot has been written on how awful 21st-century American women are, and really, fair points. American women, you are a bunch of fat, vapid, spoiled, selfish, lazy, bitchy, charmless whores. But this is a point that has already been made, many times over.

What’s not so often said is that 21st-century Generation Zero men are pretty fucking pathetic as well.

How many American men are playing video games in their parents’ basement, right now? World of Warcraft has over 2.5 million subscribers in the US, and it’s not the only life-destroyer out there. Maybe you’ve never met a guy who plays video games and watches porn 16 hours a day. But you wouldn’t, would you? Probably a quarter of western millennial men are pasty, pathetic, undateable nerds.

And how many of us are boring as all fucking hell? Of course, no one thinks they’re boring. Deep down, you see, I am a pretty and special unique little snowflake. But ask yourself, average millennial men, what do you really have to offer that differentiates you from everyone else with decent jobs, a couple of friends, and a dick? Are you a competitive athlete? Can you play a musical instrument? Run a business? Kill a man with your bare hands? Let’s say 65% of us fall under the “boring” category.

Now onto the last 10%. These are the rare men who actually have something going for them. Either they have found status through their art, athleticism, wealth, or looks, or they are just among the few smart, lucky, or hardworking men who can attract women with their aura alone.

Of these 10%, the vast majority are pricks. They spend their lives building up the hopes of marginal girls (usually by accident), fucking them, and moving on, tossing discarded broken hearts in their wake. Occasionally they take a girlfriend to cheat on and manipulate for a year or so before moving on, leaving her an empty, hollowed-out shell of a woman.

Then there is the tiny sliver of men who are attractive, yet kind and faithful, i.e. the platonic ideal of romantic comedies and notebook-scribbling girls’ fantasies. They are few, and every day more of them get burned for being a nice guy and switch over to the dark side.

It’s easy to decry the flaws of modern women, but take a look at modern men and it’s hard to avoid concluding they’re a match made in heaven.

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So the dating scene sucks balls for women too. What does the contemporary young woman have to look forward to? Fifteen years of pump-and-dumps followed by an empty, loveless marriage to a boring, bitter loser. She will always know that both her and the husband are settling. Eventually, compelled by her biology to revolt, she will destroy her family in divorce, embitter her children, and die cold and alone in a cheap old folks home.

Men’s Rights Activists will say: “Well, fuck her. She brought this on herself.” Well, of course she did! Who told her not to? American culture trained her from childhood to be a whore and chase self-actualization above all other duties. Once she considers leaving her marriage, an unstoppable machine of divorce lawyers, therapists, “supportive” friends, and Murphy-Brown pop culture conspired at every turn to push her through the decision.

If you have sympathy for the male 35-year-old virgin, unable to break free from societal conditioning enough to actually fix his life, why not feel comparable sympathy for a soon-to-be-cougar of the same age, crying herself to sleep because she wasted her life on assholes and a career, when all she ever really wanted was to be a mother? They’ve both been raised by an ideology that compels them towards self-destructive behaviour.

I know I haven’t picked the best audience for white-knighting on behalf of slutty American women. But anyone whose goals include salvaging some form of sexual traditionalism, and western civilization generally, has to understand this: We aren’t going to do it with men alone. We need to understand how feminism shits on women too because a resurgence in natural gender roles, feminine charm and traditional families will require the participation of both sexes.

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It’s incorrect and unproductive to blame the gongshow of modern dating solely on women. The world we live in is dying. Loud, masculine, promiscuous women are a symptom of that, just as much as lazy, boring (or) asshole guys are. Can we blame members of either sex for obeying their genetic urges?

Actually, yes we can, and our failure to do so is what got us into this situation in the first place.

Today’s men need to tell women that they have a lot of self-improvement to do before they can expect us to treat them as more than short-term thrills. Sorry ladies, but it’s going to be a long, steep climb out of the abyss if you want men to take you seriously. Head to finishing school (“do you accept 33 year old applicants?”) or just find a good role model. The alternative is death by obsolesence on your 40th birthday. Men with options will always save their respect for women who deserve it.

But here’s the denouement: Once a critical mass of women has re-discovered traditional values (and it will take time – please have a laugh now at the idea of a 38 year old woman with 100+ notches “rediscovering” anything) the game changes.  Men will have to, once again, work to earn the respect (and sexual favours) of women. And that’s when western civilization has a fighting chance.

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RJ April 14, 2013 at 11:45 pm

I have absolutely no interest in dating whatsoever. Women are INCREDIBLY BORING to talk to. The reason there are so many WOW nerds is because women are not only boring (as they always have been) but are now fat, ugly, entitled sluts. All of the incentive for dating women is gone, because without reliable pussy and domestic tranquility women are just stupid, fat men who don’t read real books.

Mark October 17, 2011 at 2:45 am

There are many dateable men, but thanks to hypergamy, most women will avoid these men because they have incomes that do not meet or exceed the woman’s income.

Ladies, there are plenty of good men. You just have to look down the financial ladder, instead of looking up.

In a world where women outnumber men on college campuses, you cannot seriously expect there to be enough men for all of you. Do what most men do – marry-down. So your boyfriend earns 20k and you earn 75k. Who cares. Combining the two incomes still increases your socioeconomic status.

Feminism and hypergamy are not a problem until you combine the two.

Michael Byc February 2, 2011 at 1:33 am

Greatly articulated.

White Knight Assassin February 1, 2011 at 5:28 pm

Are you for real? It’s men’s problem that women made Sex In The City their Bible?

Yeah, I’m sure women are waiting with baited breath for us men to “show them the light.” Here’s how that would go.
Man: “You know, it may not be such a good idea for you to behave like a hooker. You should find a decent man to settle down with.”
Woman: “FU asshole I’m an innepennant, empowaaarered woman and you are just a bitter mysoginist who can’t get laid.”

No I do not approve of alpha men who treat women like garbage, but I really can’t criticize their methods. Their brand would not be “selling” if no women wanted to “buy.”

Also, nice shaming language against the less attractive of the male population. Though I do encourage men like that to get their lives together, they are very wise to avoid marriage slavery. At least they are not White Knighting and browbeating other men to rescue women.

Cybro January 29, 2011 at 3:08 pm

Hardy, har, har, har another women are unhappy it’s mens fault rant. It must be groundhog day, again. Going back into my basement to play video games now. The cold winter of feminism is still upon us. These dumb bitches will freeze in the dark before they ever figure this out. Men are not the ones who need you in the first place so we are hardly concerned with jumping through your hoops of inflated expectations in the second. Keep crying yourselves to sleep. They sympathy you have for you is all you are going to get.

Deansdale January 29, 2011 at 5:32 am

why not feel comparable sympathy for a soon-to-be-cougar of the same age, crying herself to sleep because she wasted her life on assholes and a career, when all she ever really wanted was to be a mother? They’ve both been raised by an ideology that compels them towards self-destructive behaviour.
Yes, and we know that the ideology in question is FEMINISM, which is directly and/or indirectly supported by these women. It’s either this soon-to-be-cougar is too dumb to realize what’s going on – in which case I don’t feel too much sympathy for her -, or she does know what’s going on but she doesn’t care or she’s fine with it – in which case I feel even less sympathy.
Women fell for feminism because it played on their weaknesses, and with the support of practically all women, feminism destroyed men and society.
This is no time for sympathies. This is a time to bring down feminism once and for all. But that means restrictions on the behaviour and on the privileges of women.
And women will fight tooth and nail against any restrictions because they care about their status whoring and gina tingles more than they care for living in a decent, civil society.
Call me a pessimist but I think western women are beyond repair.

Anonymous Protestant January 28, 2011 at 11:18 pm

Well, I have a suggestion. Probably nobody will like it, not very much anyway, but here it is.

Find a culturally and theologically conservative church. If you are in college, find the most conservative college religious group on campus. Join it. Look for a mate within that circle. By doing so, you reduce the pool of potential mates way down, but you also screen out virtually all of the cads and sluts. Yes, you meet more boring people that way, but you also don’t meet as many drama queens or frat boyz.

Yes, it’s in the direction of Ozzie and Harriet. But it’s quite possible to have a good time, and children in a stable home that way as well.

Flame away.

Wishing don't make it so February 1, 2011 at 6:17 pm

I have close male friends who did exactly that. Their wives still got bored with them within a few years, and either refuse to touch them anymore or divorced them. And in both cases, their “godly church communities” took the side of the women and blamed it all on the men.

I’m also watching my best friend get put through the wringer right now by a “Christian” wife. She basically treats him like shit, even in front of guests. She is not even slightly grateful that she gets to be a stay-home mom in a phat suburban townhome while he works very hard at a job he doesn’t like. She’s also put on at least 50 pounds since the wedding, which was in 2005.

As long as women know that they have no responsibility to love their husbands, and they profit from divorce, they are unmarriageable. Yes even the Christian ones. Wish it were not so, but that’s the reality on the ground.

Innocent Bystander March 17, 2011 at 11:53 pm

>> Find a culturally and theologically conservative church.

> I have close male friends who did exactly that. Their wives still got bored with them within a few years, and either refuse to touch them anymore or divorced them. And in both cases, their “godly church communities” took the side of the women and blamed it all on the men.

Ditto here. Religious faith makes people *very* slightly less likely to play around.

At the end of the days when the woman gets tired of your beta-ness, she will dump you and hit your for alimony/child support and put you in jail if you can’t pay. Not a good deal for men.

A religious women is a woman first, religious is about tenth on the list.

Learning “game” is *more* important for married men than for single men. For single men, it means the difference between getting sex or not. For a married man it means avoiding economic and emotional ruin.

Frost January 28, 2011 at 2:45 pm

Fuck the pretty lies! The world is indeed going to shit. Maybe even full-on, Mad Max-style prolonged anarchy. Europe definitely has a continental civil war in the pipes…

But who knows what can happen in the next ten or twenty years? Every day, more people disconnect from the MSM and start thinking for themselves. I think we’re more likely to see some short-term pain followed by a long-run return to order, capitalism and traditional values.

As for the fact that some men are more genetically gifted than others, obviously this is true. For all the lies that the PUA community has shed, the myth that every man can become Wilt Chamberlain has stuck around. Probably because it’s profitable.

Aside from the absolute dregs of the dregs though, all men have a wide, wide range of potential outcomes, and where you land in that range depends on your actions. Will the warcraft nerd ever be able to bang models? Maybe not. But he can bang 7’s, and to his 28-year old virgin eyes, they will look like models. An “average” guy, if he dedicates himself to becoming the best possible version of himself, can easily be an “alpha” or whatever.

Not into Asian women? Well, go join a church. Or a club. The man-o-sphere can make it seem like every woman out there is filthy whore, but the majority (unless you’re only meeting in clubs and bars) are pretty decent.

Bottom line, I have nothing against being a downer when a situation calls for it. Western civ is fucked in half, no doubt about it. But… what can ya do? My answer: The best you can, with what you have, where you are.

Erwin January 29, 2011 at 3:47 am

Capitalism *and* traditional values? You must be having a laugh. Capitalism is baldly inimical to traditional values. What is hypergamy if not the application of market discipline to sex relations?

Capitalism OR traditional values. Choose one.

Bill Brasky January 29, 2011 at 12:51 pm

Have to say I agree with this. Capitalism is like Darwinism on crack…or that is what it became.

Publius February 1, 2011 at 7:48 pm

Unfortunately, the “short term” pain you speak of is going to be all the pain that you would think would be drawn out over a generation or two condensed into less than one lifetime.

What does that mean in real terms: A catastrophic event of untold proportions to shock the population into a drastic shift in attitudes (i.e.- a return to a more traditional time). How catastrophic? Modern technology and innovation played a huge roll in the “advancement” of women’s issues (laundry machines, dishwashers, and vacuum cleaners all the way up through the internet). Women weren’t so much “oppressed” for millenia- the sexes fell into natural, gentically programmed rolls that were hardwired into humanity the minute we came on the scene.

The catastrophe that would bring about the short term pain for the long term benefit would have to shock us back to a state where it will be NECESSARY to revert to the traditional rolls. That is not an outlook anyone should be looking forward to.

Bill Brasky January 28, 2011 at 2:08 pm

How little game I have? You obviously aren’t familiar with the Bill Brasky reference.

Seriously though, I see your point re: men’s longer shelf life. I think this is something women are subconsciously aware of, and might go far in explaining their 20s behavior. Although in the long run they’re shooting themselves in their collective foot, slutting it up is a primal, hypergamous way of making use of their short prime years. Long term thinking never was a feminine trait. See point a. below.

The problems I have with your solution:

a. The world has been going to shit for a loong time, and there is little guarantee that there will be any semblance of civilization around when we’re 35. Resource scarcity, environmental collapse, economic collapse, logical conclusion of the anti-white male cultural impetus, take your pick. Once the SHTF, I believe hypergamy will go through the roof. Think tatted up gang lords with harems…and lots of dead or starving beta males. They treat intelligent, honest men like shit in times of plenty…do the math.

b. Like Roissy often does, you gloss over the fact that lots of men are irredeemably, genetically beta. Small stature, anxiety disorders, etc. Sure, for most gains can be made with game, etc. (I have made them myself, and have known a few isolated 7+’s, thank you very much), but the elephant in the room is the fact that their female equivalents spend their prime years getting pumped and dumped by men with higher status.

c. I’m not really into Asian women. All the north euro countries will be complete islamic/black 3rd world shit holes by 2020, no doubt about it. Eastern Euro women are hypergamous whores, from all the evidence I’ve seen. Those former soviet bloc countries have extremely high male suicide rates.

I’m sure you think I’m being a real downer here, but fuck the pretty lies, right?

MNL January 28, 2011 at 1:24 pm

To be fair, the unambitious, basement-dwelling male is not independent of our present sexual world order. In fact, it’s much more a response to it than a driver of it. A key ingredient to our modern economy is the existence of a “marriage effect”. This is the statistically proven concept that men (much more so than women) are more economically productive when married. Even after controlling for education, work hours, age, ability, social status, etc. there’s something about marriage (and the prospect of marriage) that makes men more productive.

Interestingly, the same effect isn’t found in women who are married and working.

Now, take away the prospect of a happy marriage or remove marriage as a reasonable goal for many men (not to mention the economic independence of women who don’t need a male’s provisions) and voila–you have an increase in a basement-dwelling, less productive male populace. Next, here’s the real scary part: continue in this vein for a while and you find historical examples where this condition or imbalance ultimately leads to social unrest and political instability. (See Valerie Hudson’s Bare Branches book for more along this last line.)

MNL January 28, 2011 at 1:08 pm

“I see no reason why boring, average people couldn’t pair up.”

They can. Or at least, they once could. But the our culture’s re-positioning of female hypergamy as “empowerment” means that women are now encouraged to pursue their primal instinct of mating with only the most socially dominant, charismatic, successful, or attractive men. Many women would now prefer to take a number and wait in line as part of a revolving harem with such a man than settle down permanently and solely with that nice, boring (beta) boy down the street.

My great-aunt from an older generation once told me, “for every crooked pot there’s a crooked lid”–meaning that for every odd-shaped or quirky male, there was likely in existence some odd-shaped or quirky female of equivalent sex rank who was willing to settle down with him. That’s much less common now. The generation with this advice is gone–and is now replaced by one cheering, “you go, girl. It’s all sex-positive”.

Frost January 28, 2011 at 10:26 am

Thanks for all the comments!

Anon, Johnny and Savrola (who I assume is being sarcastic), I don’t excuse women for their poor behaviour. But I also don’t excuse men who fail to take charge of their lives. But at the same time, it’s unreasonable to expect more than 10% of people in any given generation to break themselves free of their social conditioning. Millenials, both men and women, have been raised in a shitty culture, so we are shitty people.

Ancel and Donlak, thanks for the kind words. I think there is a lot more than just a fear of being charged with harassment holding men back from living their lives. I’m not just talking about how we deal with women. Our culture just seems to discourage ambition, achievement, and effort, except in the most venal pursuits.

Bill, I don’t care how little game you have. If you start taking steps to improve yourself and your life right now, in 10 (?) years you will be 35, wealthy, and married to a hot, young foreign woman. And if you want, you’ll have dated and slept with multiple women between now and then. I repeat, this is an option that you have, and it’s not such a bad life.

A 20-year old woman today who is destined to fritter away her youth will not have the option of having a family. What, you think the average 20 year old party girl reads blogs?

Bill Brasky January 28, 2011 at 2:25 am

Donlak said “And everyone is miserable except feminists, fags, and cads”

I agree. The 20-something skanks I know are happy as pigs in shit. I get little consolation out of the thought of how miserable they’ll be at 40.

donlak January 26, 2011 at 11:31 am

Great post, much of what you say is true.
However, women want equality, and true equality means they need to step up and take responsibility. Men do this naturally, why you see men ‘whining’ about girls behaviour is cast blame on men and mans world, we are still the enemy that holds them down. These men are just calling them out, because it’s bs. And has actually tipped the scales in their favour.
Why most men fear being blunt, forward, and dominate? They don’t want to be charged with harrasment. They beleive the lie that they should be docile little wussbags. And everyone is miserable except feminists, fags, and cads.

Ancel De Lambert January 26, 2011 at 12:37 am

A wonderful post ranging through the gamuts of emotion, breaking down the psychology of your readers, then rebuilding them with a simple goal in mind, the self-improvement of an individual and the rejection of base instinctual urges as the ability singular to the human condition. This is the shit I like to see, realistic, but optimistic.

Lyle January 25, 2011 at 11:28 am

Most women have the personality of a mule’s kick to the face.

Höllenhund January 24, 2011 at 7:56 pm

“But ask yourself, average millennial men, what do you really have to offer that differentiates you from everyone else with decent jobs, a couple of friends, and a dick? Are you a competitive athlete? Can you play a musical instrument? Run a business? Kill a man with your bare hands? Let’s say 65% of us fall under the “boring” category.”

Most women are boring and average as well. I see no reason why boring, average people couldn’t pair up.

gurf January 24, 2011 at 3:36 pm

You know what else is wrong with Gen Zero men? They are negative complainers, filling blogs with their carping.

Wimmenz iz victimz January 28, 2011 at 5:20 pm

beats being a wimminz – they’re fecked in the head

Johnycomelately January 24, 2011 at 2:27 am

“American culture trained her from childhood to be a whore and chase self-actualization above all other duties”

So its not Ghengis Khans fault he killed people you know he was born into the role. I think not.

william January 23, 2011 at 8:27 pm

I say let both groups rot.

Right now there are people who are winning this game, screw waiting and do what they’re doing.

Anon January 23, 2011 at 1:32 pm

What bs. Women are adults, too, and should be held accountable for their actions.

The women’s movement drove a lot of the cultural and legal changes that resulted in the current situation.

Who cares if a lot of lonely cougars wasted their lives because their female friends and relatives’ nattering won out over their own (weak) common sense?

Life’s tough all around.

Savrola January 23, 2011 at 12:17 pm

It’s an excellent point that women are not to blame for their condition.

They have been subjected to such an intense barrage of propaganda that free will really doesn’t enter into the picture.

Wimmenz iz victimz January 28, 2011 at 5:18 pm

OMFG – women aren’t to blame?

I guess that just leaves men…what a surprise.

I think it’d be best to remove the right to vote from the vapid, impressionable feckwit half of humanity that have no freewill when bombarded with propoganda.

If you can’t handle the responsibilities, you shouldn’t have the concomitant rights

Publius February 1, 2011 at 7:39 pm

Both sexes are to blame. Men voted to give women the right to vote, and for the majority of the first half of the 20th century, a group of male politicians (on both sides of the aisle) used the new constituency to remain in power- making policies that were good at getting them elected, but that did little for the good of the electorate (at the local or national level) as a whole. The point of this article is that BOTH sexes are to blame for the current state of affairs and that it was our lack of holding each sex accountable to a standard that has produced the current state of affairs.

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